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Poster: stratocaster Date: Aug 25, 2013 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: All Aboard!!!

best show of 1983 if I had to pick one...

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Aug 26, 2013 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: All Aboard!!!

Funny as I was at this show and the previous 3 and it didn't impress me as much as the ones at the Garden - I thought the China Rider from the Garden a couple nights earlier was tops - Proud walking jingle in the City night sun - aside from the weird drum noises on the tape (10/11/83 is the one with the wacky kick drum during the post China jam).

I've done side by side breakdown comparisons of several China/Riders from that era. ie, how it starts, vocals, the first jam, the second jam break, the initial post China jam and lead up to the rider bridge, the bridge itself, the jam(duration) after the bridge, the way they enter into rider, the (duration of) first rider solo, the vocal and the bomb after 'wish I was a headlight" and of course the outro jam into the acapella vocals. Over all smoothness and general accuracy along with improv creativity are accounted for. I'm an OCD China/Rider kind of guy. I find the 83 Hartford China/rider to be ever so slightly "off" rhythmically, but that could just be the hyper speed aspect.

My Fav show from '83 was either 5/13 or 5/15, with 9/2, 10/12 and 10/17 tossed in the mix. All shows I saw and loved. Those two Hartford shows left me a little jagged...which I learned over the years was just the flavor of Hartford.

This post was modified by Little Sense on 2013-08-26 17:58:28

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Aug 26, 2013 1:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: All Aboard!!!

10-15 first set is the best of the year, all the tunes rock, especially Feel Like A Stranger and Let It Grow which are phenomenal. The second set China>Rider is nice, will probably give it to 10-11 side by side (although there are better years for China>Rider in general, like 1981), Playin' jams, China Doll is one of the best of the 80s, St. Stephen is the best of the 3 from 83...

I concur with the acknowledgement of 05-15, love that show...

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Aug 26, 2013 1:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: In and out of the Garden he goes

It might be the best of the three - on tape.

I agree that the '81 China>Riders ROCK! I'm a devotee of 9/12/81.

After fifty or so Bay Area/west of the Mississippi shows, those fall '83 shows were my introduction to East Coast Dead and I had not experienced a Hartford like atmosphere at a show before this - The Land of the Iron Sausage - to borrow a term from Frank. Cops cracking skulls, people crashing gates, fuck-yeah hard rockin man! It was a whole new world at the time. I lived back there from Fall '83 until the Summer of '90, so I got used to it, came to love it! Aggressive energy Dead! Fuck yeah man!

The Garden was another universe all together, there in the middle of the pulsating beast like that. That, in my opinion, was the Grateful Dead in all their glory, regardless of how, when or what. Stuff you won't find anywhere on tape...and F'n great pizza after the show!

I saw the first Box of Rain in '86, and similarly, the first one blew a hole in the sky, those that followed may have become more polished, but they didn't strum the cosmic harp in that same way.

5/13->5/15 changed the entire direction of my life. Picked me up and moved me from the Bay area to NY. Like a time machine it was, or a transporter from Star Trek. Beam me up Jerry. Woke up one day and found myself 3000 miles from home, at a dead show in the bowel of the beast - is that St Stephen I hear?...to much fun!

So Many Roads.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Aug 26, 2013 2:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: In and out of the Garden he goes

a caveat that could be said on almost all of the breakouts is that the energy and joy of the breakout trumps the actual performance, better versions are found as these tunes gain some footing...China Cat from 12-29-77 perfect example, not that great of a version, but the "breakout" energy is awesome...03-19-86 Box of Rain same deal...